The course today made use of some unexplored ground and part of it was quite exposed. For the early shooters wind did not prove a problem and the benign conditions meant scores were high. Dave Penman and Andras Fekete-Moto posted 39's thereby laying the gauntlet for any later competitor to clear the course. I heard people say of their disappointment having dropped 4 or 5 and that when aiming at the edge of kill that was where the pellet landed.As the day got older the wind picked up and was inclined to switch direction so although most targets needed some wind adjustment picking which side might change from lane to lane.
There were plenty of high scores but none troubled the leaders or Alan Chambers who was secure in third on 38. At the end 37 was good enough to tie for 4th and a glut of shooters on 36 tied for 10th place. However, this was to change when it came to light that Andras' recorded muzzle velocity was too high; Andras withdrew his score and was greatly disappointed.
The most watched shoot-off was between Andy Calpin and Andy Gillott, they needed quite a few shots before Mr Calpin secured third place.
GP1 at Tawd Vale 19th April 2010
The GP season got underway in the north-west at Tawd Vale. The last two visits of the GP circuit to Tawd had been rather wet so a warm spring day was most welcome. Tawd Vale covers a large area and today the course was set in a new location. The woods were alive with the sounds of early spring with many eyes lifted to the canopy to catch a sight of the courting Great Spotted Woodpeckers.
One obvious absentee was that signal of summer the Swallow; they're normally here in good numbers by now so perhaps that hard winter has slowed down their passage.Today the wind was only light so high scores were expected and the morning squad did not disappoint. Stuart Hancox showed why he has twice been crowned world champion by clearing the course! There were many other high scores; Chris Briscoe dropped only 1, his 45th target, and a number of 48's were recorded. Some shooters found the conditions tricky and perhaps like me they were fishing for a wind that wasn't sufficient to move the pellets. In the afternoon conditions remained favourable and scores were also high. Andy Calpin came closest with 49 but it must be a hard task to follow a clearance.
The first trophy presentation was well attended and I was delighted to see Paul O'Hanlon win his first BFTA trophy; 1st place in C grade. Well done Paul!
For some shooters the highlight of the FT season is the 2 day Classic. If you've never tried it then think again and give it a go; yes the shooting is good but the event is fantastic.
The weather this year was not so kind, it was cold and wet but the wind wasn't too harsh.
This is my third Classic, which was celebrating its 20th birthday, and it was the first time I had experienced two completely different FT courses; the Pontefract and NEFTA members had obviously worked very hard and their effort were appreciated by all.
My Saturday started early, I can imagine shooters all over the country waking up as if kids on Christmas Day, and we were on the road by 4.30am for a 2 hour ride to Ponte; my sympathy to anyone else who suffered the 50mph section on the M1, it looked finished to me!
Last year Jesus from Euskadi enjoyed his first Classic and this year he was back for more accompanied by Jose.
My group shot the silhouettes at mid-day. It is an experience that many look forward to all year yet when Harry says "10 seconds you may load" legs turn to jelly, buttocks become clenched and stomachs fill with acid but we love it. This year those scoring on the left hand lanes may have spotted the vole that kept popping up for some of the spilled bird food. I'm using it as an excuse as it distracted me when on aim; I wish!
Two very obvious visitors to the silhouette area were a pair of Song Thrushes that continually swooped across the firing line; their call and that of others could be heard all day.
Jose's first NEFTA experience left him ...After 2 days and 160 shots Andy and John were tied on 141; so to a shoot-off. After 4 targets they were still level, Trevor Ryan then chose a standing lane. During his FT round I had watched John dink both these as kneelers but he showed his mettle to drop both standing and take the overall title.
Matt Hirst won the silhouette title on 74 and Ian Taylor was three shots clear on 77 to win the FT title. Overall grade winners were: C grade - Dean Jukes, B grade - Mark Brewitt, A grade - James Griffiths. A special mention to Nick Murphy who overwhelmed recoiling on a score of 129 which was 15th overall.
Mark Brewitt receives his B grade trophy and wins a dip from Hydrographics.
GP2 at ETL 16th May 2010
This is my fourth GP season and ETL's offering on Sunday topped the lot. The course was an excellent challenge set in beautiful terrain; it really was an enjoyable walk.
The morning squad enjoyed favourable conditions and despite the course containing six standers and a number of long range targets the scoring was high. Neale Marklew shot superbly to drop only two, his 48 left him two clear of a small chasing pack.
Spring had finally caught up and the woods were busy with insects and birds, a Cuckoo could be heard calling and in the skies the sight of Shelducks showed that we were not far from the Thames and the sea beyond.
The afternoon session began right on time and after a short briefing from chief marshal Simon Pattle we were off. The course offered a variety of challenges including wind from all directions. Perhaps the conditions were a bit trickier than the morning but in AA grade Craig McDonald and Mark Bassett managed to join the group on 46. A four-way shoot off followed in which Mark was victorious and Neil Daniels bagged third. Chris Briscoe, also on 46, added another 48 points to his GP1 tally to lead AA overall by 12 points.In piston class Nick Murphy scored 43, yes 43, to win from Grubber on 40.
As the afternoon session ended the rain fell heavily but there were chips to eat and even a pudding. A great day out, many thanks to all those at ETL who made it possible.
FT junkies can feed their addiction on Sunday 23rd May at the Shires 100 at Sywell and then there's only one week until GP3 at Tondu.
GP3 at Tondu 30th May 2010.
For the fourth year running the Welsh GP enjoyed plenty of sunshine and today it also enjoyed a lot of wind. Tondu ground offers a variety of terrain where different challenges can be found and, unusually, a change of height. The course started with a monster kneeler at the top of the hill in strong wind, four more lanes followed on the hill and then the course descended into a bowl; here could be found a full range target placed high up the quarry side. Then the course moved into cover; although the copse offered cover from the wind some of the targets were exposed that made the wind judgement particularly hard. The course ended with targets across a pond; these were taking an inordinate amount of wind or the buggers would go straight. An excellent course in an excellent setting.
Although the wind made the day feel a little autumnal there were plenty of birds about searching for food for their young families. In the pool there were some young Moorhens and in the scrub alongside the pool Chiffchaffs were busy locating insects.
The early talk today was that in these conditions a 40 would secure a win. Mark Bassett and John Costello Junior confounded those watching and competing by dropping just 6 with Andras Fekete-Moro in third place on 43.In the afternoon Kevin Sayers, James Osborne and Dave Schofield came close with 42 but the top three places remained from the morning round. In fact all of the GP's so far have been won in the morning session!
With John having set off north Berty took the title without needing a shoot-off and it was good to see Andras pick up his first BFTA trophy.
Carl Davies continued his good form from Sywell in winning A grade with 40. Tondu shooter Simon Evans placed second and James Griffiths took third.
In B grade Mark Brewitt's fine form continued he now has two seconds and one first with all of his scores above 40 (you might miss A grade Mark!). Chris Lee of Purley Chase bagged second and Mick Winstanley finished third.
Dean Jukes took his second win of the season in C and Peter Jacobs and Mark Thomas made the top three an all Welsh affair.
In Spring class Rob "Grubber" Long's win from Nick Murphy and Stephen Privett means that each GP has seen a different winner.
For those that follow the weather of these 15 shooters I believe only 1 shot in the afternoon.
In the presentation ceremony Mark thanked Ian Harford for gaining some sponsorship from Mitsubishi - this included a prize for the top scoring lady. That honour fell to Pat Osborne; here are Mark and Pat with their trophies.
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1 – 200 of 400 Newer› Newest»Phil, thanks for the Taco advice. They were very tasty if a little messy!
Hi all, a rare visit these days I know but we're looking at flats now & filling out council housing forms.
A good shoot last weekend & a good breakin for me & Lisl. Looking forward to Tawd!
Lisl?
Please elaborate
She whispered in my ear
Okat let's have some tales from the Ride and thoughts for tomorrow.
The weather looks good!
Hi all.
I must apologise to all who I may have been alittle short with as I walked off the Course yesterday, it's just that I must have had to say '29' a dozen times in the space of 20 yards! Sorry lads & lasses what can I say? I'm a pillock!!!!
Well done Mr O'Hanlon. Let's hope for a few more of those excellent trophies and the big one at the end of the season!!!!
Thanks Shaun.It was nice to win my 1st trophy. I enjoyed the day and the company of Karl & Simon.Thanks guys for making me feel relaxed.
I'm trying to book into GP2 but they are showing morning session only, is the P.M. slot full already?
Yes, got my answer. Looks like I've missed the booking in window for GP2 P.M. session. Don't feel like a pre-dawn start so I'll give it a miss & book in to GP3.
The Millride site will soon go off line unless anyone has free webspace that can host it.
If that's you then please tell me and I'll inform Phil.
You have mail Shaun.
back at ya
WAY TO KICK ASS in C!
Sarcasm Mr Ralph?
No, I just wanted to congratulate you in the vernacular. Why would I be sarcy with you? Top shooting mate!
Evening anyone.
Good luck to Fulham and Liverpool!
Not at the ride today, before anyone says anything it's not because of a woman! I'm required to help out with some DIY at home &can't get out of it . Believe me I've tried! Good Shooting 'riders!
Missing shooting because of a woman; shocking!!!!!!!!!
NOT A WOMAN Shaunie! Family DIY. Admittedly I'm presently in a Premier Inn in Caerphilly WITH a woman but she is honking her guts up! Still, nice castle.
I know that this is a ruse Gregory because you mistakenly used DIY as a reason!
Enjoy your stay in Wales.
Huge robbery in Birmingham this afternoon. Police are looking for 11 crooks wearing claret and blue.
It's a lonely blog these days. Greg has an excuse but the rest of you ....
No news from Saturdays shenanigans, I was forced to ring Roy to hear the gos' & risk the abuse! I hear low scores all round, so what happened?
How come me and Ian (and Rob F)have been talking on the wrong site for quite a while? Today is the first time this section has shown up for me. The section we've been on is currently showing 131 posts.
here`s ian
see you later going down pub
it aint lonely any more shaun
At last customers!
If you want to read what we've been saying about you then re-visit the old site.
I'm sure it'd all be rude
On the contrary Shaun, you forget I'm a Wolves supporter and we're a very nice bunch of chaps who would never be rude.
And that Villa lot are robbers, I'm led to believe.
Crooks the lot of 'em
The objective of next season - 17th having beaten the Villa home and away - football heaven!
Evening all, what's up then?
Hi Greg, it's NEFTA fever
I hate to think of what Villa getting 4th place might do to your health and temper over the new season. All TV subscriptions cancelled for a start, I'd guess.
Evening Greg. I hope you've been able to remove your nurse's outfit since the weekend.
Hi Shaun, a review of the schedule please.
Hi Roy, you can stop with the footy drivel now, it's FT time!
OK Greg, but at the moment I don't have a gun to shoot.
Friday - Roy pics J&J up brings them to mine (where he is welcome to join us for chicken wrapped in bacon mm)
We will leave for Ponte at 4.30am on Saturday morning.
Are you staying at mine Friday night or arriving at 4.15am?
Sunday - return (nibbles and rest at mine). You return J&J to Stansted early Monday morning (approx 2am depart - confirm when Jesus arrives)
Roy, if you don't get it back you are welcome to use my S400.
It only has a 12x scope on but I find it very accurate. 1/2 an hour on the plinking to get some aim points and you'd be fine.
From what time will there be someone to receive them at your end Shaun?
A very kind offer Shaun, but it depends on timing really, as I might need to get back at a reasonable time to pack the car ready for an early start the next day.
Come as soon as you're ready Roy. Evelyn will be in.
The only problem will be if you arrive when she's on the school run (3-3.40pm)
I hope to be home soon after.
Thanks Shaun, that's very kind of you. Ian has generously made the same offer.
If you need it then you can collect it on Friday (my car will be packed to the rafters with guns!)
Roy, I think Greg is only allowed to make 1 post every half hour
Well, depending on landing time, entrance formalities, and the dreaded A14 I'll call in at the Greyhound for some refreshment; but in deference to your meal, nothing too substantial. Are J & J aware that they would have the opportunity to check their guns?
I have not told them that but I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
Remember Jesus will be empty of air.
I'm just absorbing the atmoshere.
That's not correct. Nobody tells Greg what to do. (Is that a good answer Greg?)
Did the illness prevent the introduction to FT strategy Greg?
Greg, please respond to my question whilst absorbing
No shooting possible Sunday I'm afraid. Watching Dr Who at the mo' now.
Roy, you are welcome to borrow my Steyr if you're having problems with your gun.
Greg'll be answering you at 5 to 11 Shaun.
Phil, nice to hear from you. That's a fantastic offer, I'm honoured. Hope you're well, and in calm waters.
And when will you return to the fold?
I'm moving home tomorrow.
Calm but with some nasty rip tides swirling around ready to drag me under at any moment probably sums it up at the moment...
we'll see.
Lots of things demand my time at the moment. Some desirable, some less so.
You deserve a weekend shooting in Yorkshire.
I deserve a chateau in the South of France.
Chances are about the same.
let me know if you need the Steyr.
Its just gathering dust at the moment
Evening Phil!
Good luck with the move.
I've tried uploading the website to a free hosting site but it seems very temperamental. At least the home page exists now so we've got some web presence.
I was trying to avoid paying for someweb space but it seems you get what you pay for...
Thanks Phil, will do.
Hi Phil
Greg, how's it hanging?
By the skin of its teeth, I'd imagine.
Drooped, I imagine.
Greg's strangely quiet while he examines it.
Please answer my question Gregory
Hoping to have a day in the Welsh borders, Bala and Vrnwy tomorrow so having an early night. Will blog tomorrow.
Look out for Ospreys!
Sorry Shaun, just figured out what question you wanted me to answer.
Yes mate, I'll be staying with you on Friday.
Eureka!
Goodnight all.
Nice to have some blog chums again.
phil a see your out the nest for a while
just got back i take it its good nite then
morning chaps. Just tried to access mill ride site.... Cant get on keeps diverting onto a GET FREE WEB SPACE page.... Problems with site?????
has site name changed or has destination changed. Or has shaun just changed it to kepp us yorkies out..
Some one please advise
Barby at mine on saturday night if there is any one interested, you can call or text me to advise.
Blog later tonight. Best wishes to those that care..
Glad things are on the up for you phil even if it is slowly....
Roy offers of guns your way include a Daystate MK3 if needed..
Greg whats this about nurses outfits and hotels, have i missed another swinging session...
Plenty of air in my bottle for Jesus on saturday if required...
Then there was Mr. J! How the devil are you sir?
I understand the 'ride site has expired or something so another place has to be found, techy stuff!
Barbie sounds good to me, it'll keep me off the beer! Nice one.
Mrs Duffy for Prime Minister!
check this out
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649174.stm
excellent!
Evening all.
The Champions League semi-final is a little disappointing so far
Evening all, what's occuring?
The gun is fixed and will be collected tomorrow - Gary is a star.
He says that there was a lot of Millride dust in the reg, some O rings had to be replaced and not all of the air was going into the shot.
The hammer spring was binding and the guides have been replaced because "some iffy mods" had been carried out prior to my ownership. In fact, part of a pen was in there. An O ring has been put around the barrel in order to fully freee float it, and a little bit of the air stripper has been removed because it was catching somewhere else on the gun. About 400 pellets have been put through it and all seems well. Because everything has been stripped down, the gun will need setting up again so all being well I'll get across to Millride at some point tomorrow.
That rifle is SOooooo you Roy!
A wreck, you mean?
That's your Head to Head aspirations gone for a burton now then.
Forgot to mention that I called in at the dive shop in Cannock today for a refill and was told that they're opening a shooting sports section next month.
Good news Roy.
Did you watch the football?
I thought it was crap.
Who's coming to Scotland then?
Via STB I have located a campsite, it appears to be adjacent to the shoot.
No to the football. what was the outcome?
Apart from my lack of shooting finesse, it does offer an explanation of why the wheels could regularly be falling off after a decent start.
Greg, you may be interested to know that I'm reading another book by Rowland White, who wrote the Vulcan 607 book we both enjoyed so much. It's called Pheonix Squadron and its about HMS Ark Royal (which was on the verge of being scrapped) and its part in the launching of Buccaneer Bombers on an unprecedented long range mission over Belize
Probable, but unconfirmed, yes for Scotland.
millwho,s coming to scotland ! does the pope s**t in the woods. count me in lads.
Evening all. Just oiling up for the debate whilst keeping an eye on the footy scores.
I like the way Nick Clegg stands. He has his legs apart, the other two are one foot in front of the other.
Cameron's twithcing, his stock is dropping like the Greek economy!
Haven't been able to catch the debate, I'll try and watch the recording later.
Jesus phoned today to confirm arrangements for tomorrow......he was aware of the weather forecast for the weekend.
evening shaun
Shaun, I'll be taking the air bottle with me tomorrow, but didn't Jesus have some sort of problem with the filling adapter last year.
Hello, Ian.
is gun ok roy ! wars the weather forcast then
Hi Roy, Hi Ian,
yes Roy he did but when he came to the Euros he had sorted it out.
that was wats the weather forcast ....not good spelling 2nite
Rain and Saturday, better on Sunday but very windy.
I don't care for the weather, bring on the metal chickens.
Evening chaps, what's new?
Anything going on on the 9th lads?
Are you getting married?
Tried it at 10 and 25 yards and it seemed spot on. Windage needed adjusting a small amount, but elevation at those ranges needed no adjustment even though the gun was completely dismantled.
do you need me to give some good advice greg!
wats it doin over the chrono roy
What time do we need to be there on Sat, and are we meeting for breakfast en route like last year?
Ian, do you have a spare gun bag that you can bring to the NEFTA?
Haven't checked it yet but Gary said about 809.
No, it's my Mom's birthday & there's a whole family meal thing going on.
Briefing is at 9am.
We're leaving mine at 4.30am. I'm happy to meet up for breakfast but last year it happened by accident.
I'll get Greg to text you where we are Roy to see if we can meet up.
No shooting on the 9th Greg.
16th - GP2
23rd - Sywell 100
30th - GP3
a gun bag ?
got a bin liner
Sounds like The Importance of Being Earnest.........."a handbaaaag".
text me and i will meet up aswell
That's a good ONE liner.
okay Greg you have text duties.
Well done Fulham, come on Liverpool.
roy, it'll be great not to worry about the footy results on Saturday.
liverpool are playing crap
I'm worrying about next season now.
without Torres they're tosh.
Is this the final nail for Benitez do you think?
Oh dear, Liverpool.
I've just watched the last 20 minutes a fair portion of which was Liverpool lumping the ball up to that tall striker Kuyt!
It was almost like watching Blues.
most definitely.
Got to be Mourinho
1) He can't go to Madrid they'd hate his style.
2) Man U won't be available for a while.
3) Liverpool will accept his defensive tactics because they're desperate to challenge for the premier league.
4) Alex has got the only other option and the news is his signing a new contract.
Of to bed now lads, next stop, Stansted
Good luck Roy, text me when you leave the Greyhound
The polls say that Cameron won. They must have been watching the football.
Evening chaps.
Once again you've change the blog address?. Obviously, yes.
After some very busy weeks, now is time to enjoy the NEFTA Classic even the weather will be not good enough.
Jose and myself will be in Stansted airport at 11a.m. and to be received and carried to Birminagham by Roy.
Just some hours to meet all you mates!
Hola Jesús, looking forward to it mate?
hello greg
still waiting for a weather report lads
I gave you a weather forecast 30 comments ago Ian; have you been drinking?
What a stupid question, I meant - have you drunk too much?
looks like damp and breezy... that's ok, most of the course is well sheltered :)
Should be pretty breezy by my tent tomorrow night!
Hi Greg , Is that after the food has taken affect..(windy by your tent ).. I have spoke to Calpie and he picked a nice spot for you next to the train tracks... on your own..LOL.. Shaun if you want a gunbag text me or call before 18.00pm and I will put one in the car I persume it is for Jose or Jesus..
Evening all, I would just like to say that I hope you have a great weekend and that I will be there with you in spirit.
hola Jesús y jose yo espero mi mirada de amigos después de que usted este fin de semana. tenga un gran tiempo
I hope that makes sense.
Paul
Evening all.
I'll be nice and dry.
Wish i had a quid for every time i heard T Wall say Millride dust- its a sealed unit.
Evening anybody!
Evening Roy et al.
I had a super weekend and am enthused to practise those sillies and get myself a new sleeping bag and a warmer coat.
No probs with warmth up until presentation ceremony. Ditto silly's though, because I probably got more than I deserved.
It's a pity it's a year until the next one because I'm sure my enthusiasm will wear off.
Goodnight all!
Welcome back from the pub Ian!
Just got round to drinking the bottle of cider that Ian gave me on Saturday. Hope Mia's eating now.
Evening all.
Any views about the Classic weekend?
Another GREAT ONE, I love 'em I do! Plus the catalyst to a major change in direction for me.
Dare I suggest a permanent or atleast a semi-permanent Silys around the back of the cafe though.
I have to admit to the members that my journey down to Stansted wasn't without incident. Namely that my Satnav did one again & took us 28 miles off Target! But the major worrying thing was a catastrophic tyre failure that I had yesterday that might have proven fatal at 70 mph!
Hi Greg, perhaps your SATNAV can't make adjustments for wind.
Tell more about the tyre failure; everyone okay?
knock knock....
Had a wonderful time good company as usual. sillys big let down but hey if you dont practice, then you score what you score...
still a bit slow on here Mr Chairman...... Where is everyone...
domestic duties I think.
Thanks for your hospitality on Saturday Phil.
you and everyone else were and are very welcome.... Have you seen any scores published
Yes they're up on the STB.
Another great Classic weekend - Saturday's FT course chewed me up and spat me out. Sunday's course looked like it could make grown men cry - harder than the first course and a nasty wind blowing through it. I don't think I have shot a better course in the last few years.
Least said about the silhouettes the better ;)
I thought that Sunday's course was more challenging so to drop only 2 you must be pleased Dave
Right I've gone to walk the dog.
Glad you're OK Greg.
As it's confession time, my journey home from Ponte was not without incedent either.
If you recall, I was following you out on Sunday Shaun, but I stalled the car on the steep slope onto the road. As you know, I run on LPG, but for the first minute or two (when the engine is cold)it runs on petrol which automatically then transfers to LPG. Unfortunately although I had enough petrol for normal circumstances it was low, but the degree of backwards slope prevented it from getting through to the engine and so it wouldn't start again. At this point I had a big queue behind me, including a caravan. I was then pushed backwards down the slope but because there was no power to the steering or the brakes I nearly ended up going into the fence. Eventually I was pushed back onto the level of the car park but it still wouldn't start. Then I was pushed to a position where the engine was lower than the tank and it started, Within about 30 seconds or so it was running on LPG and we we on our way. Ian was following me at this point and after about 10 miles I pulled into a service station in order to put some air into one of my tyres, and although I didn't need to, I put a bit more petrol in.
Now I know Greg likes to maintain the myth that I don't like spending money, but get this....
I put my 20p into the air machine and when I'd finished Ian jumped out of his car to use the remaining time on his tyres even though they probably didn't even need doing.
Is Stoddart a Scottish name?
Was over the moon with a 2 - I am sure I rode my luck on quite a few targets though.
Did you shoot with Neil in the lane next to us? If so - he was giving you grief all way round. Well done for persevering ;)
I'm just surprised you didn't hang on to that hand pump you used for latex Cindy the night before & save yourself the 20p!
Free air was probably the highlight of his vweekend, and I'm sure I saw a smile on his face......but judging by the noises coming from his tent it was almost certainly wind.
Yes I was. But I enjoyed it thoroughly. He's a big softy really!
Cindy is in the bin. What a let-down.
Evening chaps.
Only some words to say you that the travel was OK, except the delay of the flight, so the take off was at 8:20. We wait during more than two hour in the airport and we take a breakfast.
The police control with the airgun was terrible. The policewoman said: the document of your airgun is not in English. I don't know where is writted the address. This document has not a register number.
Obviously I tryed to explain her that the document is for Spanish airguns and that in case of English people they don't have any document like this, so if she try to apply the mentioned criteria it will be impossible to fulfile the pass document.
After some phone calls to her bosses and good criteria showed by other policeman , we can go ahead.
We arrived at Bilbao at 11:15 Spanish time and without any other problem.
I would like to thank you all in my person and on behalf of Jose for all the attentions received durig this weekend, because we feel like at home.
Thanks also to Roy and Greg to pick up us from and to the airport.
Thanks to Shaun and famaily to host us , specially to Peter and Michael so we invaded their rooms.
Thanks to Evelin to prepare the meals and the fantastic ¿Triffle?
Jose is writting a big history of this fantastic experience in our webpage .
Greg, sorry to ear you had problem with the tyre. The roads we "discovered" in the return were very difficult really.
Hola Jesus,
good to hear that you got home safely.
Sorry to hear about your trouble at the airport. Unfortunately it seems our airport authorities don't know the law.
The trifle was nice!
You never know what to expect with the A14. you can often have a bad journey for no apparent reason.
See you in July.
Hi Shaun.
You are right . The authorities don't know the law but some of them don't have enough common sense. It's worst!
Jesús mi amigo, I'm sorry that,
1/ I got you lost on a journey I've done several times & really shouldn'thave made a mistake on.
2/ Appear to have put your lives & welbeings in jeapody on what turned out to be very dubious tyres.
The hiccup with the over zealous lady copper brings to sharp focus the points made around the table when we got back to Shaun's house on Sunday night about laws made by people who know noth ing about the subject they are legislating about & law enforcers who know little about the laws they are enforcing!
I agree with your last paragraph Greg.
Perhaps it will be good to have a copy of the English law in our case to be showed if necessary, so perhaps with some polices we can have problems again.
Where can I download this specific law?
I'm not sure where, Shaun's probably your man for that or perhaps a question on STB.
I do know that Law is worded in such archaic & confounded way that it's nearly impossible for an ordinary Englishman to understand it so how much use it would be to a Spaniard of even your high abilities I'm not sure.
I've had a little whisper that a certain Mr G might possibly be spotted at Millride on Sat.
Jesus, you have unfortunately identified the problem.
UK law states that an air rifle producing less than 12ftlb (16j)of energy does not require a license. However, the only way of determining that an air rifle does not require a license is to chrono it. Our friends at the airport either accept that you are carrying a legal air rifle or chrono it to test it for themselves.
This problem has been regularly discussed over here. Some people would happily have a license to prove that it is legal and allow ease of travel. I have also heard of people contacting the air rifle manufacturer for a letter endorsing its 12 ft lb status. However, such a document is I imagine useless once the rifle has left the factory.
I'm very glad you both got home safe my friend anyway. I'm just reading Jese's account of the Classic on you forum at the moment.
That of course should have read 'Jose' not 'Jese'. I don't think I'm fully recovered yet you know!
Jesus, this is from directgov.co.uk ask the police
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q326.htm
Ok Shaun I'll try to contact them later.Thanks for the link.
Greg, if you need some explanation about the report don't hesitate to ask me for.
As you can see is there a lot of feelings writed and it's no easy to catch the real sens.
It's time to bed for me.
Nighty night my friends.
For the purposes of taking a non-FAC rifle out of the country, how feasible, practical, acceptable would it be, in the weeks running up to departure, to take your rifle to the Firearms Officer to be chrono'd and for him to issue some sort of certificate, or sign and stamp a pre-written letter to state that on a particular day the rifle was not a firearm in the statutory sense. The letter could include the date and purpose of the journey. I know the rifle's power could be increased between then and the journey but it would be a bit like an MOT that states that on a particular day the vehicle was roadworthy. I'm sure such a document would give some credence to a verbal explaination when dealing with the airport police.
I doubt it would be an FAO that would chrono it though, the rifle would have to be sent off to a police phorensics lab & sit in an orderly queue with the saturday night specials & blunt instruments & may take many weeks be fore being returned or perhaps lost. If we do't need a bit of paper in law far easier not to have one in my opinion.
You're probably right Greg, although the essence of the problem is that who you deal with at the airport is a bit of a lottery and although I've not heard of anyone within the sport being denied embarkation, therein lies the potential for unnecessary stress and delay.
I also doubt it Roy.
Roy I posted on the STB about clearing the passage at the airport but got short shrift.
For me the airport is used to dealing with licensed firearms and are misled when an air gun appears. Hence why I'm contacting Easyjet one month before departure to tell them I'm coming.
I saw that Shaun and I felt a little bit offended that your well intentioned post, based upon practical experience, wasn't better received.
Again though, although no documentation is required, some of the people you might encounter at the airport are unable to process this fact, unless they have a document to verify this. Jesus, would like a copy of the statute, but who at the airport would have the ability or acumen to decipher a written statute without reference to a higher authority.
Interesting debate, but got to go now. Sweet dreams everyone.
Nighty-night everyone in blogger-land. Reality recommenses for me tomorrow.
Morning all.
Shaun, looks like José is after Nick Murphy & Paul James.
http://www.shooting-the-breeze.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3895
I'm not sure either go on the forums, but I thought you'd spoken to Nick about the TX & may of had his E-mail.
Man City v Spurs for the 4th spot, let's hope it's better than last week's offering from Barcelona and Inter
Half time update - Man C a lot of pressure but there remains no score.
Evening bloggers, I believe there's footy I so I expect no one to be here.
I'm multi-tasking Gregory
Goal Spurs!
Man C have been on the back foot for a while and now they've been punished by Peter Crouch.
Stoke go 1 up which is good for Birmingham's chance of finishing 9th.
ps - I know that I'm talking to myself.
What was the 'WOW' about regarding the Boinger Shaun?
STB is in trouble tonight.
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